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Canon HG10 AVCHD Camcorder: Video Transfers January 20, 2008

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In a continuing review of AVCHD Camcorders, let’s take a look at at transferring videos from Canon HG10 to the computer.

AVCHD camcorders are typically equipped with and connect to computers via USB 2.0 port. Canon HG10 is a hard-drive-based AVCHD camcorder, and the only way to transfer the data from the hard drive is to connect it to the computer via USB 2.0 port. That’s excluding the options to open up the camcorder, take out the hard-drive, mount it in an external USB 2.0 (or FireWire; but importing is not supported), and then connect it to the computer. Don’t do that. Just connect the camcorder to the computer via USB 2.0 port.

One other important note is that the camcorder has to be connected to the power source in order to “import” the video clips.

Canon HG10 - Transferring videos to computer

The placement of the USB 2.0 port of Canon HG10 is a little bit awkward. The USB port is located on the inside, covered by the LCD screen. It is not the best place for the USB port.

Once the camcorder is connected, turn the camera to “PLAY” mode.

Canon HG10 AVCHD Camcorder - Play Mode

Sony Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition can natively read movies in AVCHD format, it can directly read the “.mts” files. It takes a relatively short time to import the video clips from the camera to Sony Vegas. Sony Vegas users can copy the AVCHD folder to another hard drive, then import the video clips from the hard drive instead of the camcorder.

Mac users are at a disadvantage, because iMovie ‘08, Final Cut Express 4, and Final Cut Pro 6 do not recognize the “.mts” files. Those Mac programs have to convert the AVCHD videos on the fly during imports. Because of this, the import process on the Mac is taking a lot longer in contrast to Sony Vegas. After all, AVCHD is developed by Sony and Panasonic. There are other ways to make the process a little bit easier for Mac users, I will get to that later.

Canon HG10 AVCHD Camcorder - PC Mode

Buy Sony Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition from Amazon.com
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1. Tim - January 24, 2008

I just bought an HG 10 and will want to be able to edit my work on Final Cut, so I will have to do some importing. Please continue this discussion, when you’re ready!

Thanks!

Are you using Final Cut Pro or Final Cut Express?

I’ll be posting more on AVCHD camcorders and Final Cut Pro, because I don’t have Final Cut Express yet, soon.

2. JW - February 13, 2008

Just boot a MacBook and hoped it would connect to my HG10 seemlessly, as their ads suggest. but after loadign the software, and folloing the instructions as you lay out above, the camera is not recognized. Suggestions?
thanks

What software are you installing? What version of Mac OS X do you have right now? Update to the latest one, i.e. 10.4.11 or 10.5.2.
Do you have iLife ‘08? iMovie ‘08 will recognize the camera. If not, you need to trash iMovie ‘08 preferences.

3. Derek Washington - February 18, 2008

Hi. I have connecting problems too. I have HG10 and an intel based 24inch imac. I tried trashing the iMovie 08 preferences, but do not know how to do so. Any suggestions?

I am at a loss as to what to try from here. My computer recognizes the camera, as an icon appears on my desktop called “Canon HDD”. But iMovie won’t do anything with it, nor will iDVD, as it says it must be hooked up via Firewire, which the HG10 doesn’t support.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Just for clarifications, you need to have iMovie ‘08, Final Cut Express 4, or Final Cut Pro 6.0.2 to work with AVCHD camcorder successfully. Make sure they are up to date.
Now, go to your home folder, then library, then preferences.
Look for a file with name: “com.apple.imovie…..” - the file name I gave might not be right, but it should be obvious. delete it.
Connect the camcorder to your iMac, make sure it is also connected power source.
Launch iMovie ‘08, let it run for some times, in general it will see your camera and give you options to import the videos.

hope this helps

I’d make something more visual next time.

v

4. ben - February 18, 2008

does it work on Window’s Movie MAker

5. ben - February 18, 2008

can it work on Windows MovieMAker

Ben, as far as I know there is no support for AVCHD yet in Windows Movie Maker. At a glance, I don’t see any specific plug-ins of AVCHD for Windows Media Player or Windows Movie Maker yet.

AVCHD is still a new format. The way it goes today, there should be more supports for this format. The latest version of NERO includes the .m2ts codec. I found that Sony’s own Vegas Movie Studio Platinum is a great program to handle your AVCHD need on Windows. After-all, AVCHD was developed by Panasonic and Sony.

Amazon sells Sony’s Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition for about $100, and I highly recommend it for Windows and AVCHD Camcorder users.

hope this answers your question and then some.

v

6. tony aliston - February 24, 2008

i have an canon hg10, im using sony’s vegas movie studio 8 platinum and cannot transfer the data from the camera, i even rang sony they said it does not recognise the format. im very confused can somebody help me

That doesn’t make sense at all. Sony Vegas should recognize AVCHD. What you can do is to copy the mt2s files (.mts) to your hard drive, then use Sony Vegas to open/import those files. That should work.

7. coa - March 6, 2008

Hi there. I’ve got Final Cut Pro 6.0.2 but can’t seem to import anything from my Canon HG10 AVCHD camcorder. I go to Log and Transfer, and it says the “AVCHD media isn’t supported on PowerPC based hardware.”

Any suggestions? Camera is obviously turned-on and the USB cable is plugged-in. Would appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks.

Hi,
Unfortunately AVCHD is NOT SUPPORTED on PowerPC-Macs. AVCHD was developed by Sony and Panasonic, and the encoding was written based on the X86-codes. I hate to say that you need an Intel-Mac to work with AVCHD.

8. Stacey Clegg - March 10, 2008

I’m looking for a video camera that has 3CCD tech, with a 30-60 GB hard drive that will work with Final Cut Express 4 on my (3month old) Mac book Pro that has intell duo somthing or other??? I need help! I tried the JVC cam corder but nothing! I like the cameras with the hard drive (as it will save time with editing). Please point me to the right video camera and let me know what to expect. Thank you so very much!!!

Look no further. Canon HG10 fits that description. I used it and it is a great camera.

9. Phil - March 15, 2008

ive been using VoltaicHD (from http://www.shedworx.com) which runs on the PC platform but also runs on Macs (Intel and PowerPC ). It works great since it converts the avchd files into suitable formats on both platforms.

10. willie - March 16, 2008

i have a apple black macbook with leopard 10.5.2. i have final cut express 4.0 and i am thinking about getting a camera. can i get a sony avchd or should i just get a regular mini-dv camera ?

Your MacBook should be able to handle AVCHD camcorder. I’d go with the HD camcorder such as Sony HDR-CX7.

11. confused - March 16, 2008

Can you give me a very basic explanation of why I cannot connect my Canon HV20 to my Mac/ Final Cut Express?? I get an error message when I connect it that says “Unable to locate the following devices: Apple Firewire NTSC (720 x 480) and I have no idea why!!!

That has nothing to do with the camera you’re connecting. It is referring to the output device based on the set-up. Simply click on Continue.

12. Roy - March 16, 2008

Hi,
I have the Canon HG10 and I’ve been using iMovie to convert and edit the files. The only problem that I’ve encountered is that it has a hard time dealing with big files (over 1GB) and often does not transfer them (says that an error ocurred.) Since the mac doesn’t recognize the raw MTS file what are my other options here?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Roy, I recently worked on a 3GB AVCHD video with iMovie, and I did not encounter such problem.

Can you tell me your Mac specs?

13. Roy - March 17, 2008

Mac Mini
1.73 Ghz Core 2 Duo
2GB DDR
10.4.10

Btw, just tried to transfer those same files on a pc and they all transfer without a problem (using Ulead).

Suggestions? Thanks for your help!

how much hard drive space do you have free?

And it is a good idea to update the OS to 10.4.11

14. Roy - March 18, 2008

OK, just upgraded to the latest version of iMovie and the problem is fixed! Thanks for all your attention!

15. Max Coglan - March 23, 2008

Hi,
I’m a newby HG10 owner with a modern PC, XP home

So far I have managed to load a movie to Youtube using the Corel bundled software and Windows moviemaker - teapobs - on Youtube

What will I need to make Vimeo clips?
Thinking about Sony Vegas 8 Platinum
and DVD Architect
Will these compress the files for Vimeo, or am I off track ?
Max

16. Mark - March 23, 2008

I am new to camcorders and just purchased a HG10. I was able to transfer the .m2ts files onto my XP pc and play them in the supplied InterVideo WinDVD. The videos are jerky on the pans and zooms - they make me motion sick. I downloaded Vegas and converted to .avi and played in WMP, but the quality of the video was lost - very grainy. All I want is to take videos, put them on my XP pc, and play them back in something simple and free, like WMP or QuickTime. Does anyone have a SIMPLE workflow for doing this (preferably using Vegas)?
Thank you,
Mark

17. Glenn - March 25, 2008

Hey - great post! - Any idea how to get the .mts files from a sony HDR-SR1 (30b hdd model) to import into final cut express 4 ?

In Final Cut Express 4, FILE > LOG & TRANSFER.

18. Glenn - March 25, 2008

sorry - re above post just to clarify… i mean files i’ve already got off camera - can do it from the camera - is voltaic the only way?

Unfortunately, m2ts file is not natively supported in Mac OS X yet by Apple. I usually, create a disk image or copy the m2ts files into an external hard-drive, with the folder structure. I can import them that way.

19. Glenn - March 25, 2008

bingo - so its the combination of the volume being external and the folder structure that allows log & transfer to pick them up.
hey thanks 37

You’re welcome.

I have been doing so since day one. I actually making a disk image of the drive, as long as it’s under 8.5 GB. Cause then I can burn it to DVD for archival purpose.

v

20. Paul - April 1, 2008

Hi there,

Nice website! I like the colors and layout very much.

Like everyone else posting on here, I now have a Canon HG10, and have a down rev of iMovie and iDVD on a G5 iMac. I also have an XP machine with a 1.8 GHz Core2Duo w/3.5 GB of RAM.

I’m torn between buying Sony Vegas or upgrading to iLife `08. Any advice here? Obviously, I’d have to use Voltaic to convert the AVCHD files first if I stay on the Mac. I’d like to produce both classic DVDs and AVCHD DVDs. At some point, I’ll break down and replace the iMac, but I’d like to put that off for now.

AVCHD is supported on iMovie ‘08, FCE 4, FCP 6 on Intel-Macs only. Some newer AVCHD format is yet to be supported in those programs. I’d suggest that you get Sony Vegas for now. Don’t bother getting iLife ‘08 for your iMac G5 for now. Intel Macs can handle HD-format much better.

21. Paul - April 1, 2008

Thanks very much for the advice! Btw, the HG10 seems like a very popular camera on here. After having one, I see why.

Vegas it is. What happens in Vegas… :-)

Anyhow, thanks again!

You’re welcome.

22. Rog - April 3, 2008

I have a Panasonic HDC-SD1 AVCHD video camera that I enjoy but until recently I couldn’t edit the files very well with the software that came with the camera. Recently I bought an Intel-based iMac and installed iMovie ‘08. I can now download files directly from the camera and all is working well. My question is, during the time I couldn’t edit my files I stored them on my hard drive until I found the right software but, as you know, iMovie doesn’t recognize mt2s files that haven’t gone through the importing process. Is there any software that I can use to translate these files and then import them into iMovie? Someone recommended a freeware program called MPEG Streamclip, which I downloaded but doesn’t work on my iMac. Any suggestions?

I make disk image of the SD-Card to preserve the directory structures, then mount it whenever I need to extract clips from it. Some people suggest using “Voltaic”. I have not use this software yet.

23. Neil - April 9, 2008

Well, wish I’d done a search for G5 iMac and the HG10 before. Spent four hours trying to get the video to load onto the computer - all I got was “Camera Not Found”. Went out got iLife. Finally, iMovie says “you need an intel mac.” So, downloaded Voltaic - which works, although slowly. Now just waiting for the battery to fully charge so I can do some shooting with this new toy.

Working with AVCHD and PowerPC Mac is not a pleasant experience. Get a new Intel-Mac when you could. It’ll be a lot faster. Good luck.

24. Lika Nathanson - April 27, 2008

I just bought a Canon HG10 and I have problems with playing the movies I made on my laptop. I’m new in the movie business and probably I’m making something wrong. Could somebody explain to me what to do?

I’d be glad to troubleshoot with you. Can you describe what the problem is?

25. Lika Nathanson - April 27, 2008

The problem is that after I back-uped the files in my computer I canot open them because of the extension mts.

What Operating System and what program are you using?

You need to preserve the folder structure of all the files from the HG10.
That way you can alway import the clips.

26. Lika Nathanson - April 28, 2008

I have Windows Vista. I used the backup program supplied with the amera. I think that the structure is the same.

OK.
I know for sure that Sony Vegas can read and edit mt2s files natively.

Get the trial and see if this would solve your problems.

If you like it and willing to get it, buy Sony’s Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition.

27. colin Carroll - April 29, 2008

I also have the HG10

What is the best thing to convert MTS files into without them being too big and also retaining video quality?

AVCHD is a heavily compressed format, thus the MTS files are relatively small.

I need to know what Operating System you have.

If you’re using Windows XP or Vista, I’d recommend getting Sony’s Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition. AVCHD was jointly developed by Sony and Panasonic.

If you’re using Mac, you need at least iMovie ‘08. Final Cut Express 4 will work too.

I’d say copy the structure of the hard drive to preserve the source.

Get the trial and see if this would solve your problems.

If you like it and willing to get it, buy Sony’s Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum Edition.

28. Lika Nathanson - April 30, 2008

Thanks a lot. It works.

Always a pleasure to help you.

Please come back and asks any questions. I will try answering them.